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+xOff topic. The discussion here is going only about the picklist values and not on how to change altitudes in general. Agreed ... and we already found out that the pick list in Skydemon is just a convenience list with no claim to be checked against regulations (which would mean a major development task - i.e. what to do about a cross border flight between one country using semicircular rules and another using octocircular rules? SERA is not the only, but just another regulation framework on this world).
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Gerhard66
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2. The picklist should also pop up when changing the altitude in the leg properties menu. I need this much more often than the general cruise altitude setting in the route menu.
You can just drag a segment to a new altitude in the profile view at the bottom Off topic. The discussion here is going only about the picklist values and not on how to change altitudes in general.
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TXR
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+x+xHi Tim, I cannot agree to your „arguments“ too. As a professional tool, SD shall be based on the legislation and not on pilots mentioned, who have obviously not received a sufficient theory training. For your convenience, I provide the link to the official text: „ DF“"> DF“">https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2012:281:0001:0066:EN  DF“
How (some) pilots don't know about this, is beyond me.
Here in Germany, if you fly above transition altitude (which I hope all pilots know what it is) of 5000 ft, you should follow the semi-circular rules as you have shared.
Of course, typically, VFR pilots in Germany will fly in Class E, which even though is "controlled" airspace, 2-way communication is not mandatory, so I guess some pilots will not know and not care about the assigned flight levels which one should fly at, but I'm really surprised to hear someone saying they don't know of anyone who complies...
*On the other hand*, we are talking about flight levels here, not altitudes. So even if I would appreciate being able to choose the appropriate "altitude" that I would like to fly at, it would have to be converted to Flight Level, so I assume SkyDemon would need to constantly check the local QNH and convert to Flight Level, by taking the "real" altitude from GPS? I agree it sounds complicated, so in my mind there are 2 options... either doing it properly, getting the laws from each region, and providing a proper suggestion to the pilot, or not having anything at all and just allowing manual input. But indeed the suggestions as they are today are totally useless (to me). What's the problem with picking 6500 ft in SD for planning purposes, and then flying FL065 at whatever altitude that happens to be that day? It's neither relevant for filed VFR flight plans nor for ATC as you fly. SD also doesn't feed your onboard Nav or A/P. I don't see why SD should have to crack their skulls over this and make the product more technically complex with no benefit.
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TXR
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2. The picklist should also pop up when changing the altitude in the leg properties menu. I need this much more often than the general cruise altitude setting in the route menu.
You can just drag a segment to a new altitude in the profile view at the bottom
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Gerhard66
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As well known, here on the continent we drive on the wrong side 😉, but at least in the air, we do have the same rules as in the UK. In my opinion it is irresponsible to warp the majority of (VFR) SD users into flying in altitudes reserved for IFR traffic.
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bashope
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+xHi Tim, I cannot agree to your „arguments“ too. As a professional tool, SD shall be based on the legislation and not on pilots mentioned, who have obviously not received a sufficient theory training. For your convenience, I provide the link to the official text: „ DF“"> DF“">https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2012:281:0001:0066:EN DF“
How (some) pilots don't know about this, is beyond me.
Here in Germany, if you fly above transition altitude (which I hope all pilots know what it is) of 5000 ft, you should follow the semi-circular rules as you have shared.
Of course, typically, VFR pilots in Germany will fly in Class E, which even though is "controlled" airspace, 2-way communication is not mandatory, so I guess some pilots will not know and not care about the assigned flight levels which one should fly at, but I'm really surprised to hear someone saying they don't know of anyone who complies...
*On the other hand*, we are talking about flight levels here, not altitudes. So even if I would appreciate being able to choose the appropriate "altitude" that I would like to fly at, it would have to be converted to Flight Level, so I assume SkyDemon would need to constantly check the local QNH and convert to Flight Level, by taking the "real" altitude from GPS? I agree it sounds complicated, so in my mind there are 2 options... either doing it properly, getting the laws from each region, and providing a proper suggestion to the pilot, or not having anything at all and just allowing manual input. But indeed the suggestions as they are today are totally useless (to me).
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Gerhard66
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Hi Tim, I cannot agree to your „arguments“ too. As a professional tool, SD shall be based on the legislation and not on pilots mentioned, who have obviously not received a sufficient theory training. For your convenience, I provide the link to the official text: „ DF“">https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2012:281:0001:0066:EN DF“
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+xThat is simply not how people fly VFR in the vast majority of flights. Excuse me, but I cannot agree. However, I have understood you don´t want to change the settings here - well, it´s your business, you know... Please understand me as I´m unsubscribing to this thread now... *KOPFSCHÜTTELUNDWECH* So long, Björn
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Tim Dawson
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That is simply not how people fly VFR in the vast majority of flights. Presumably you're referring to long-distance touring VFR?
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Hetzenauer
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To be exactly clear: the region is worldwide as it‘s an ICAO standard for collision avoidance since the beginning of the Cold War 😉
Just kiddin‘, no offense!!
Best Björn
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